Inappropriate interactions with underage members

[SpamKey]

Maybe its my rapidly advancing years, but am I the only one you doesn't really know what RPing is or even how to RP? Either way it puts me nicely in the clear regarding this controversial issue. Its not a part of the board I show my head

Ah, RP'ing is just when two+ people pretend to be characters and interact with each other as those characters. On here, it's for the express purpose of acting out those characters in sneezy scenarios. Un-asked for RP'ing 101 with Spam. Ta-flipping-da.

[bloom]

I am curious: would this also include fanart and fanfiction? We have, for example, a lot of anime fans here and as it happens most of the popular anime series are about U18 characters (who can easily look older than that or very ambiguous). And then there are characters whose age isn't really specified at any point and judging by both their actions and appearance they could just as well be 16 or 18.

So.

Only original characters or also fan art/fiction?

In theory, yes, ideally, I would like to see all U18 material relegated to the youth board. In practice, I know that would absolutely be far too difficult, bordering on impossible, for the staff here to deal with, so I would be fine with actual obs of u18 people being put there (with the option of them putting stories/art there too, as they can now), and anything with heavily mixed-age, fetishy interaction (I'm talking about RPs here) disallowed. In theory again I actually really love Sen Beret's idea of a Romeo and Juliet type of guideline, but I think that would be too difficult to moderate, as well.

I want to reiterate that I realize how tricky a line it is for the staff to walk, keeping this place both as safe and inclusive as possible, and I want to thank them for allowing this open discussion. I really appreciate it and all that you guys do.

[Dusty15]

In theory, yes, ideally, I would like to see all U18 material relegated to the youth board

But what about 18+ members writing about characters who are 13-17? I've written Harry Potter fan fiction in the past about character during the later years of school, so like 16-17. I mean, when I think about it in the sense of people who are actually that old I would never write "real" stories about them, but this is a series and a group of characters I grew up with so I don't really age them in my head as significantly younger. Would my stories about them be posted on the Youth Board? Would 18+ members only be allowed to write material about characters over 18?

[bloom]

I said "in theory" for a specific reason. I don't think that it's productive in this case to debate complete hypotheticals; I realize not everybody is going to agree on what is unacceptable sexualization of minors. I am nowhere near as concerned about fictional characters as I am about real teenagers, anyway.

[Heathcliff]

I'm a bit late here to add my two-penneth, but what the hell.

I've thought for a while that having under 18 members in the forum can sometimes place us in a difficult position. Indeed, I've said before that if I had to remake the forum tomorrow, I would make it 18+ to join. Some people here would argue that's a bad idea; in any case that is completely hypothetical, because no-one is going to ask me to remake the forum (you'll be glad to hear).

However, I think we have gained a confused attitude towards the under 18 members. Some years ago there was a teen wav page which featured under 18 wavs; that doesn't exist now and it would never be allowed by current forum rules. However, we do have under 18 observations, role-plays etc.

I think we can sometimes be lead astray by this attitude that the forum has to be there for under 18 members, or something bad will happen if they don't have this space to express their fetish. As I've said before, the forum is not a public service, and if the staff feel it's safest or easiest to restrict some part of it from under 18 members- then they should just do it!

I broadly agree with Junia and others, that future underage obs could perhaps be confined to the youth board. About other stuff like roleplays I'm not sure. If it is genuinely only a handful of older roleplayers who are repeatedly instigating sneeze-related roleplay with younger members, maybe individual warnings would be the best way to deal with it.

I don't really want to have a pop at the staff, who do a marvellous job here... however, sometimes in the past when members have kicked up a fuss about something, we've heard the old line "the forum is not a democracy". And that's completely true; ultimately the staff can decide who stays or goes. So if they want to tell a particular member "We don't think it's appropriate you roleplay with under 18s; do it again and you'll be warned" they can do it!

But what about 18+ members writing about characters who are 13-17? I've written Harry Potter fan fiction in the past about character during the later years of school, so like 16-17. I mean, when I think about it in the sense of people who are actually that old I would never write "real" stories about them, but this is a series and a group of characters I grew up with so I don't really age them in my head as significantly younger. Would my stories about them be posted on the Youth Board? Would 18+ members only be allowed to write material about characters over 18?

I must admit, this gave me pause for thought. If we restricted all fanfiction with underage characters, that would wipe out all Harry Potter fiction at a stroke (and other fandoms I imagine). I feel the same as Junia, that somehow fetish fiction about fictional U18 characters is less worrying to me than lots of adult comments on a U18 obs. Is that hypocritical? I'm not sure.

[Oolia]

But you are right. Some of these comments have sounded more like people find having the U18 members posting in the general obs, stories and artwork boards and in the wavs section (why is that allowed?) inconveniences them as people who are not interested in obs, stories or art about U18 people/characters (as a side note I would like to point out that we've had 18+ members posting art/stories about their original, U18 characters) and thus want them gone. Because they are an inconvenience.

Sorry, but it's a lot more than just inconvenience. This is a fetish forum. For a large majority of people, it's SEXUAL. How would you feel if you were browsing a porn forum and accidentally landed on a pic of a naked 13 year old? This is what it feels to me when I realize I've been reading a story/obs about an underage kid. It's quite horrifying and it makes me want to jump out of my skin. If you're comfortable with that, that's your own deal (and honestly, it's concerning), but don't try to downplay how it makes us feel.

[Sitruuna]

I must admit, this gave me pause for thought. If we restricted all fanfiction with underage characters, that would wipe out all Harry Potter fiction at a stroke (and other fandoms I imagine). I feel the same as Junia, that somehow fetish fiction about fictional U18 characters is less worrying to me than lots of adult comments on a U18 obs. Is that hypocritical? I'm not sure.

I wouldn't say it's hypocritical necessarily since one is real people and the other is not. With real people it's more complicated and even though you can ignore the person age in your head and think of them as if they were the correct age (if you are that desperate for new obs) there is still a person out there who might feel creeped out by you commenting their obs.

I think a bigger concern or "thing that people find weird/creepy" than 18+ members commenting on stories about U18 characters (especially if it's fanfiction) is 18+ members writing fetishy stories for their own enjoyment (=not because someone requested it) about characters they have created themselves and decided to make 15 or 16, because that, I think, is way more inapropriate than giving other members (positive) feedback (which is usually something people appreciate).

If this topic is about the adult members' behaviour and not about patronising the U18s then I'd say that the original fiction written by the 18+ year olds is something we should take a critical look at.

//editing the other post to be included here

But you are right. Some of these comments have sounded more like people find having the U18 members posting in the general obs, stories and artwork boards and in the wavs section (why is that allowed?) inconveniences them as people who are not interested in obs, stories or art about U18 people/characters (as a side note I would like to point out that we've had 18+ members posting art/stories about their original, U18 characters) and thus want them gone. Because they are an inconvenience.

Sorry, but it's a lot more than just inconvenience. This is a fetish forum. For a large majority of people, it's SEXUAL. How would you feel if you were browsing a porn forum and accidentally landed on a pic of a naked 13 year old? This is what it feels to me when I realize I've been reading a story/obs about an underage kid. It's quite horrifying and it makes me want to jump out of my skin. If you're comfortable with that, that's your own deal (and honestly, it's concerning), but don't try to downplay how it makes us feel.

I feel repulsed when ever that happens, but a lot of the time I check first and then start reading. I still think these stories have a place in the general story boards instead of just the youth board because this forum is not only for the 18+ members. Wanting it confined to a specific area so you won't have to wade through a few more stories to find what you are looking for or to check the basics before reading is treating the people those stories are for as an inconvenience.

How would you feel if you were browsing a porn forum and accidentally landed on a pic of a naked 13 year old?

I would wonder what that picture is doing there since child pornography is illegal in many countries, including the one I live in. Then I would wonder what I myself am doing there since I am not interested in "regular" porn at all.

[Leafeon78]

This is stupid why should the forum be restricted to 18+ when it should give younger people the chance to explore into their fetish even though it's sexual.

[bloom]

This is stupid why should the forum be restricted to 18+ when it should give younger people the chance to explore into their fetish even though it's sexual.

Can you please extend everybody who has posted constructively in this thread the courtesy of reading their posts carefully in order to make sure you understand them? Literally nobody in this thread has suggested that we make the forum exclusively 18+. The only thing anybody said along those lines is Heathcliff's post about wishing it was that way, but every single person here knows it will never happen. Please calm down.

[Leafeon78]

Sorry it just seems that younger members seem to be getting restricted from everything because not all have access to the youth board if I'm wrong correct me.

[bloom]

First, this is a discussion. Nothing has actually been implemented yet, so nobody has been restricted from anything and until the Staff make a decision about it, none of us will know either way.

Second, Youth Board access is granted to anybody who asks for it who is validated, under 18 and who does not have any active warnings, as far as I am aware (mods, please correct me if I am wrong). These don't seem like particularly stringent guidelines to me, especially since the only thing most people in this thread seem to be able to agree on is limiting U18 observations to there and no other restrictions.

[PuddinPop]

I'd just like to clarify that the the things that are posted in the Youth Boards have the same rules applied to the rest of the forums - no under 13 obs, no -18 wavs/vids etc.

The reason this sub forum was created was to give the younger members a private place to talk away from the older members if they wished. There are no extra privileges in terms of being able to post things in there that you cannot post anywhere else on the boards.

Junia is absolutely correct that only -18 validated members with no warning posts are granted access to the Youth Board. This is because it is a privilege, the same as PM function and Adult Board access.

Also to add, the Staff are aware of this situation and are discussing it.

Okay, carry on.

[Oolia]

I would wonder what that picture is doing there since child pornography is illegal in many countries, including the one I live in. Then I would wonder what I myself am doing there since I am not interested in "regular" porn at all.

In the context of a sexual sneezing fetish, U18 material is considered child pornography. So why are you OK with us having to wade through what is basically child pornography while perusing this forum?

[Sitruuna]

I would wonder what that picture is doing there since child pornography is illegal in many countries, including the one I live in. Then I would wonder what I myself am doing there since I am not interested in "regular" porn at all.

In the context of a sexual sneezing fetish, U18 material is considered child pornography. So why are you OK with us having to wade through what is basically child pornography while perusing this forum?

Because written fiction of U18 people having sex with each other is not illegal/viewed the same way actual photos (or videos) of actual people are either. It's also not wrong for someone (who is under the age of 18) to tell others online how hot someone in their class/school/art club/swim club looks.

As you may have noticed I am not against U18 wavs and videos being confined to the Youth Board. I think I mentioned it before but . don't even understand how U18 videos are accepted at all. That is more of a sneeze fetish equivalent to child pornography than written fiction or obs.

[Oolia]

Because written fiction of U18 people having sex with each other is not illegal/viewed the same way actual photos (or videos) of actual people are either. It's also not wrong for someone (who is under the age of 18) to tell others online how hot someone in their class/school/art club/swim club looks.

As you may have noticed I am not against U18 wavs and videos being confined to the Youth Board. I think I mentioned it before but . don't even understand how U18 videos are accepted at all. That is more of a sneeze fetish equivalent to child pornography than written fiction or obs.

You have a point about how fictional representation of sex between U18 isn't illegal, and if I think about it, I have read books featuring young characters having sex and it didn't bother me. But what it comes down to is where you find those stories. If you find them in a fiction book you are reading casually, obviously those scenes wouldn't be perceived as sexual and bothersome. But if you find them in a porn site, where you go specifically for arousal, it's a problem to me. Illegal or not, it's immoral. And in my opinion, it applies in this case.

The main point here is that I'm not comfortable with wading through obs/stories/RP that contain U18 people/characters, and I think it's fair to ask that they all be restricted to the youth board. Not only for the safety of the young members (and preventing pedophiles from reading them), but also for the comfort of our adult members. This is a fetish forum, it shouldn't even be shared between U18 and adults to being with. I understand that we want to offer a safe place for U18 to discover their fetish, but I don't feel like it's selfish or entitled for adults to ask for a better experience on what is primarily a forum intended for them. Unless this forum was created with children in mind (and I sure as hell hope it wasn't), it is a fair argument and shouldn't be thrown out as if we're being difficult or lazy.

Again, nobody is asking for the forum as a whole to be 18+ (although I personally would prefer it), but we have to be honest with ourselves: those who visit the obs/stories/RP are, in vast majority, looking for sexual satisfaction, and as adults, even reading titles like "I caught a cold" from a member we know are 13 really kills it completely. It affects our experience negatively.

I am having a hard time understanding why it would be such a problem to separate the U18 material and hide it from the adults. It accomplishes several things:

1. Keeping the younger members safe;

2. Preventing pedophiles from accessing U18 materials not intended for them;

3. Offering a better experience for adults.

I know most of the difficulties lie in the vetting process and the fact that new members wouldn't have access to it, but at some point, we have to stop accommodating so much. I've said it a million times already, but it bears repeating: this is a sexual fetish forum.

[Sitruuna]

But what it comes down to is where you find those stories. If you find them in a fiction book you are reading casually, obviously those scenes wouldn't be perceived as sexual and bothersome.

And when you find it in a fanfiction/general fiction site as pwp it's still accepted.

I still think that confining all U18 material to the youth board can easily lead to young people not being interested in becoming members or even browsing this forum, which in turn can lead to them feeling isolated or like they are alone with this. Fanfiction would also be hard to moderate because it would requier a lot of work from the staff to check every character who people decide to write/draw/talk about and there are many character who are left very ambiguous.

This is not judt a place where people come to find something to fap at. This is a place where you can talk about your experiences, problems and insecurities with people who are or have been in the same situation or who you can trust and feel comfortable talking to about the fetish because they, too, have it. This is a place where you can learn to accept yourself as you are. This is a place where you can switch feeling like a freak to being comfortable with the fetish. This is a place with a good group spirit and nice, accepting people and a place like that shouldn't favour some over others.

Confining U18 stories, obs and art (especially stories and art) might make it easier for the 18+ members who don't want to even see those topics but it makes it more dificult for young members who would be interested in material of people their own age. Like said before access to the Youth Board is a priviledge, not a right you should expect. It wouldn't be fair for the U18 members to confine their stories and such there.

[Leafeon78]

May i add how about the person had access to the youth board when they write stories for instance they hit 18 they won't be allowed in their anymore as you got to be below 18 how would they continue it.

(sorry if I'm wrong or don't make sense)

[TheCakeIsAlive]

There seems to be some confusion about U-18 wavs / videos. These are not allowed on the forum under any circumstances. Not on the Youth Board, nor anywhere else.

While the rules on stories have been updated a bit recently (as per announcement etc), the vast majority of this post is still perfectly valid: http://www.sneezefet...=30#entry357661 . I think this explains the reasoning behind the current rules very well and explains very well what under the current rule is and is not allowed.

The last time this subject was discussed exhaustively (late last year), this was the outcome: http://www.sneezefet...showtopic=59424 . Of course some time has elapsed between that and now, however, to me it seems like this is entirely overlooked in the current discussion.

[tma]

You have a point about how fictional representation of sex between U18 isn't illegal, and if I think about it, I have read books featuring young characters having sex and it didn't bother me. But what it comes down to is where you find those stories. If you find them in a fiction book you are reading casually, obviously those scenes wouldn't be perceived as sexual and bothersome. But if you find them in a porn site, where you go specifically for arousal, it's a problem to me. Illegal or not, it's immoral. And in my opinion, it applies in this case.

This is how I feel in regards to stories both original and fanfic. Yes, this is a "porn" site in a way, but seriously if you would have in ANY way called it to me when I first joined (I was *over* 21 when I joined) I would have run SOOOOOOO fast. People have layers of sexuality. The Adult area was created for if people wanted to have discussions, share stories, topic, etc. away from our U18 members. It seems a bit onerous to me to say, "You can't write an original high school story because I might stumble upon it and it might ICK me" I might stumble on a variety of stories that might "ICK" me for a variety of reasons.

**Especially** if a person is in middle school or high school. I mean, does it seem odd that a person in that age group might want to write about other people in that age group? It seems natural to me. Same with obs.

I think that how 18+ people RESPOND can be an issue. If an 18+ person says to an obs, "That's sweet." or "Nice writing" - how is that bad? If a person writes something pervy the Staff (even as it stands) can take down the pervy comment and reprimand the offender. Yes, there are still shades of grey- but I think that those exist with "muggle" stuff too. Like people wanting to ban books like "Lolita" or calling John Green a pervert because he has sex scenes between u18s in some of his books. Or even discussing sex and sexuality between u18s and 18+ people ("It was my first time" type of discussions that some would be comfortable with and others not). And many of us would agree that those things are different than trolling for naked pictures of 14 year olds.

An issue (to me) as well is validation. What if what an u18 potential member mainly has to share is wanting to RP and share stories and obs of people their own age? Is this wrong? There are 18+ people who come in mainly wanting to share stories and obs of people their own age and they can do that. I'm all for people waiting for various privileges even if it seems like a long wait. Also, I'm 11829371937% in agreement with the no vid rule and with the no u13 thing. And I'm also TOTALLY anti- 18+ being creepy at all to u18s. But, I would think that it would seem (in my own opinion) to be a bit too restrictive to say, "You 13-17 year olds, you can enter, but until we have "X" level of trust in you you aren't allowed to share any stories or obs of people your own age"

The RP thing is a whole other battle. I don't RP so I don't have a clue. There seems to be a difference between if a person is responding to the created character vs. the *writer* of said character. But if there are RPs currently with 16-22 year olds in them then that is already mixing. I know that a BIG jump in age, particularly if combined if a person soley RPed with u18s, and created u18 character would be a concern. Staff currently can deal with specific situations as they arise, particularly when reported.

I don't know. I'm cool with how it is, but if people want changes, then they can bring those up. Obviously, any changes proposed by *anyone* (myself included) aren't the "Law of the Land" until Staff decide and post officially their ultimate conclusion.

[bloom]

I think this explains the reasoning behind the current rules very well

I understand and appreciate the viewpoint on most of the things contained in that linked post, but here's the thing about the section about U18 stuff. It seems to mainly boil down to two things:

A. Obs of minors are not illegal, and

B. If we said they couldn't post them it would drive off our minor members.

With regards to A, posting videos and wavs of minors isn't illegal either, and we still don't allow that, so it doesn't seem like a very compelling argument to me because the center does not seem to hold. I legitimately and genuinely do not comprehend what the difference is between a written self-observation and a wav posted by an underage member. Obviously I'm not advocating the rules change in the opposite direction, but I'm saying, straight up: People masturbate to wavs. People masturbate to obs. People derive sexual pleasure from both of them. I don't understand what the functional difference is. It does not make sense to me to allow one and not the other. I'm not trying to be combative here, I just honestly don't get what the difference is between them.

With regards to B, you could make the same exact argument to underage wavs, that not allowing them to post them alienates a large part of our membership. Maybe that's true for wavs too and the fact that kids can't post their wavs* is driving off a lot of our potential members. We don't know for sure, but we still don't allow them to be posted. Again, I just don't see how obs are any different in this regard. If the only thing we restricted was the posting of obs containing U18 people, U18 members still have tons and tons of areas of the boards to contribute to, if they so wish.

What if what an u18 potential member mainly has to share is wanting to RP and share stories and obs of people their own age? Is this wrong?

No, of course not, but neither is it wrong for a member to come in and mainly want to share adult-oriented observations and stories (after all, this is a sexual fetish forum), and we don't allow them to do that directly off the bat, either. It's just the opposite side of the same coin and it seems very fair to me to apply that limitation to both groups, especially because not many people are even asking for other U18 things to be relegated to the YB. Most of us (I think, I could be misreading people) are just saying observations because that's what seems reasonable and enforceable.

* Incidentally, I wouldn't see any particular problem with U18 members being allowed to share videos of celebrities between 13-17 or even wavs or videos of themselves within the confines of the Youth Board. That's the age range most of those members are meant to be most interested in anyway. The risk with overage people lying about their age to get in there seems minimal to me because I think most overage people would be more interested in the adult board than potentially creeping on minors in the youth board.

[tma]

tma, on 15 June 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

What if what an u18 potential member mainly has to share is wanting to RP and share stories and obs of people their own age? Is this wrong?

No, of course not, but neither is it wrong for a member to come in and mainly want to share adult-oriented observations and stories (after all, this is a sexual fetish forum), and we don't allow them to do that directly off the bat, either. It's just the opposite side of the same coin

I don't think that it is the opposite side of the same coin. Adults *are* able to share observations and stories of adults. They are not allowed to share EXPLICITLY sexual observations and stories even of other adults. The opposite side (to me) would be a u18 sharing a story or observation of a u18 that would be EXPLICITLY sexual - which isn't allowed - even in the Youth Board.

I know that it is shades of grey. But the community has always had that as part of it. That recognition of the inherent sexual nature (since it is a fetish forum) but the recognition that a fetish forum doesn't *have* to be pure-out, neon-blazing, "SEXUAL" either. I haven't explored other fetish-sites, but from what I've heard (and I can believe it) this is a VERY "vanilla" site. Which, absolutely does NOT mean that we should be "laissez-faire" or that we shouldn't seek to improve the balance of fun and safety for ALL our members.

[•.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.•]

I agree that u18 obs serve no functional difference, to many people, than u18 wavs would. There is, as has been mentioned, a quality of socialness to it (something along the lines of "cool that you got to see your crush sneeze congrats" that kind of thing) but i don't see why that kind of social interaction couldn't be derived from other similarly aged members, as well.

I do think that restricting u18 obs, and roleplays by u18 members, to the youth board makes sense, because it allows for these materials to continue to exist, and in a safe environment, with peers.

I do agree that at-large u18 people should continue to be allowed to post, comment, read, and otherwise experience all of the general areas of the board, barring these two things, because it's important for u18s to be able to learn from older members and see that they aren't alone and etc like such.

I don't feel it would be overly strict to relegate u18 obs and roleplays by u18 members to the Youth Board, because any validated youth is allowed to access it upon request. There are many things one may not do until vetted, and I do not think that this additional safety precaution would be a drastic thing to add to this, because any unvetted u18 member would still be able to post in general, and off topic, and comment on and write stories, and comment on and share art, and view/contribute to the sneezes spotted in the media area, and so on and so forth across the entire rest of the forum at large.

* Incidentally, I wouldn't see any particular problem with U18 members being allowed to share videos of celebrities between 13-17 or even wavs or videos of themselves within the confines of the Youth Board. That's the age range most of those members are meant to be most interested in anyway. The risk with overage people lying about their age to get in there seems minimal to me because I think most overage people would be more interested in the adult board than potentially creeping on minors in the youth board.

I do beef with this slightly, because predators of course would not be interested in people their own age and WOULD be interested in creeping on minors in the youth board, but I also do trust that the current staff, who do indeed always do a wonderful job of protecting and regulating the forum, have measures in place to prevent this from happening, and so it at that point becomes a moot point, even from my place of objection.

*edit for grammar

[matilda3948]

I wanted to share a couple thoughts. I'm just chiming in as a member and am in no way speaking on behalf of the staff.

I definitely hear the concern about allowing under 18 observations on the main board. They're real people, intended for sexual pleasure, and offend some members who don't want to read them. I don't think there's necessarily any harm in adult members who post comments like, "That's great" or "Welcome to the Forum" (a lot of new members post in the Obs. section first). I feel like this issue that is more cut and dry than many of the other issues.

I don't see why (or how) to segregate fictional material. As some people have pointed out, it would include any fandoms like Harry Potter, Glee, The Fault in Our Stars, Big Hero 6, Frozen, and Divergent (and those are just the ones I saw on the first two pages). Not only do I think this is overly restrictive of fictional content, it's easy for the members who don't want to read them to skip it (as opposed to observations which you might not notice until reading most of the obs).

I feel basically the same about RP because it's also about fictional characters and no one is going to read it without knowing what they're getting into.

I'd also like to suggest an alternative way to view leaving this content on the main board. The main board is an excellent safety net. Since most of our members are not here to creep on the younger members, it's a lot of extra eyes watching the interactions. I can easily see situations where the actual youth member may not understand that someone is being creepy (took me a while to figure out sharking, etc.) or they may be too hesitant/shy/uncomfortable to report it to the staff; our more seasoned members may notice creepy behavior and report it before the youth member does. Anyone who is truly predatory is going to have to be more careful on the general board. If everything is on the youth board, all it takes is one fake profile that gets miss and, once they're validated, they're in a very small pond. Experienced members have "been around the block" and know the red flags. I think it would be shame to lose that level of community oversight. Just reading the thoughtful responses to this thread show how committed our community is to having a safe environment.

Additionally, restricting so much content makes it difficult for youth members to participate enough to get validated and, thus, get access to the board. This is particularly true if we remove those fictional fandoms that attract many of the youth members in the first place.

[MyOwnPrivateSFC]

Also commenting solely as a member, NOT as Staff:

What matilda said. All of it, but especially the last two points. Or three.

(I'd say matilda and I share a brain, but it's more like she has the brain, but lets me use it occasionally. )

Seriously, though: I would have said what matilda did, had I been able to find a way to phrase it well. So consider my opinion to be the same as hers.

[Sitruuna]

As some people have pointed out, it would include any fandoms like Harry Potter, Glee, The Fault in Our Stars, Big Hero 6, Frozen, and Divergent (and those are just the ones I saw on the first two pages).

Just pointing out (because I did earlier say that moderating the stories would be hard if all U18 content was restricted to the youth board because you can't allways tell how old the characters are supposed to be) that all of the most popular characters (Anna, Elsa, Kristoff, Hans) are 18 or older according to Jennifer Lee who is the co-director and a screen writen for Frozen.