Let’s talk about Bloopers!

[I love Alan Rickman]

To Staff: If you can remove the old comments about the sneezing parts (and then this would go as well), please do. I really didn’t mean for this to be this heated. And I don’t want people to not see the part on page two and end up thinking I’m gonna put my friend into a situation where she could be attacked by fetishists demanding more sneeze content from her. I’ve established how to avoid that. Please, thanks!

The reason I wanted to post this (besides the fact that y’all are some of the only people I can go to since I’m so shy in real life): I have a great friend who is a YouTuber. I was thinking today about how she has been warming up in front of a camera. She’s more of herself in front of the camera than before. Therefore, I thought, since she’s warming up to the camera: What if she made a blooper video?

I think a blooper video would be great to show that not only is she getting comfortable in front of the camera, but to get her more okay about her own mistakes, as she is a big perfectionist. She feels she needs to get better at accepting her mistakes too, and I think this would be good for that. Plus, I feel like it would form a better connection between her and her viewers. They’ll see some of the mistakes that go into making her videos, and they can laugh with her. In one of her videos, she kept in a part where her cat was trying to eat a thumbtack and she jumped up while recording and stopped him. Silly little moments like that make the video a bit extra entertaining. I do think that there would be a lot of benefits to making a blooper video.

The only thing at this point is, how do you think I should bring it up? Should I mention it at all? I was thinking of saying, “I think you’d make a great blooper video,” But I think that may come across as, “You probably make a lot of mistakes while recording, so I think you should make a blooper video!” and I really don’t want her to get offended. 😅 Also, I’ll warn her so she doesn’t get herself into a scenario of people maybe demanding more fetish content from her. I know it’s a small amount of people compared to the vast number of us, but in general it’s still a lot, and I don’t want her to be in that scenario. I’d feel horrible.

 

Also, what do you think about blooper videos? Do you usually find them silly? What do you think makes a good or bad blooper video? Do you agree with me, or do you think differently? Please tell me your answers (and how you think I should bring up the topic if at all) in a response!

Edited April 16, 2019 by I love Alan Rickman

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[I love Alan Rickman]

21 minutes ago, facet said:

This sounds like a round about way of sharking your friend for sneezes.

I mean, having a blooper video is innocuous in and of itself but you've literally pointed out that she sometimes records on days when she's sick or is having bad allergies and that there may be some sneezes you get out of it.

You may not mean it, but this really sounds like you're trying to finagle your friend into unknowingly and without consent give you fetish material.

Which... That's not cool.

That is very offensive if you to say, especially to a 16 year old about her best friend. I am not sharking her. She is my best friend and I wouldn’t do anything to make her uncomfortable. I am a girl too. I am one hundred percent straight and have been my whole life. I am not a lesbian, and her sneezes do not turn me on. I do not agree with doing anything just for the sneezes. I’m sixteen, thank you very much. I do everything in my power to make sure that she is comfortable. She is my role model, and I care so very much about her. She is my best friend. I would sacrifice myself to save her if necessary. I would never EVER do anything like this just for the sneezes. I’m not selfish.

If I were sharking her, wouldn’t I have been trying to think of things to intentionally make her sneeze before this? Wouldn’t I have done something before this when I’ve known her almost three years? But because I’m not selfish like that, and I do really care about her, I didn’t. I literally only had this idea since I saw a blooper video yesterday from one of my favorite ideas and thought it was hilarious and remembered how much I love blooper videos (which btw the vast majority do not have sneezes, they’re just mainly funny) and I only thought the sneezes thing may occur. I don’t care if she does or doesn’t I just thought it’s a possibility on top of it. My main reason for wanting to do this is because she’s silly, because she’s getting more comfortable in front of the camera, because her channel is getting less engagement than before since she can’t post as much, and because she is having less time to put in to actually making normal videos because of the many interviews and songs she’s working on and personal things that are going on. I thought it could be a very simple thing to get out relatively quickly by going through what’s already recorded as opposed to having to record something new. I love her very few bloopers she’s included, and I’ve seen others laugh about them too. They’re silly, because she’s silly. And I think people would love them. Again, I only thought the sneezes MAY happen. I really don’t care if they do or don’t, though. That’s why I mentioned so many other things with it, which took up the majority of the post.

Please, before you assume that I’m gonna shark and manipulate my best friend and am not just genuinely asking for advice on how to recommend this since I don’t want her to be offended (because again, I want her to be comfortable), please ask me via pm to clear things up instead of full-on blaming me on the entire forum.

Edited April 16, 2019 by I love Alan Rickman

[•.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.•]

no, I'm sorry i have to agree. there is a LOT of rationalizing going on here (she's getting more comfy in front of the camera! it'll be fun for her viewers!!)

but what it comes down to for you, deep in your heart of hearts you know this, is "my friend is cutting sneeze content from her videos, but might include it in bloopers. therefore, if i persuade her to make blooper videos, i may get sneeze content. should i persuade her?"

i give you points for asking advice and not just doing it, but i have to say my advice is a resounding NO

absolutely not!!

and i'm taking your points back for getting defensive instead of taking a look at yourself, realizing that maybe you're contemplating doing something outside of your moral parameters, and changing course/growing from it

 

[•.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.•]

22 minutes ago, I love Alan Rickman said:

Again, I only thought the sneezes MAY happen. I don’t care if they do or don’t, though

also just to add, if it was rlly so inconsequential to you, you rlly wouldn't have: 

•been paying close enough attention to speculate about it in the first place

•mentioned it

•mentioned it as the first thing in your post

•mentioned it on a SNEEZE FORUM 

Edited April 16, 2019 by •.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.•

[I love Alan Rickman]

14 minutes ago, •.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.• said:

no, I'm sorry i have to agree. there is a LOT of rationalizing going on here (she's getting more comfy in front of the camera! it'll be fun for her viewers!!)

but what it comes down to for you, deep in your heart of hearts you know this, is "my friend is cutting sneeze content from her videos, but might include it in bloopers. therefore, if i persuade her to make blooper videos, i may get sneeze content. should i persuade her?"

i give you points for asking advice and not just doing it, but i have to say my advice is a resounding NO

absolutely not!!

and i'm taking your points back for getting defensive instead of taking a look at yourself, realizing that maybe you're contemplating doing something outside of your moral parameters, and changing course/growing from it

 

I’m being defensive because I am SIXTEEN and you guys (on one of the only places I can come to for help because I am so shy in person and this have a very small amount of friends) are assuming that I’m gonna shark my best friend/role model. I came here because it’s one of the only places I can go, as I said. I have very few friends since I’m so socially awkward and shy, and most of them are so busy. Her sneezes do literally nothing for me, and I can’t care any less if she sneezes or not in her bloopers. It’s just something that I thought of at the same time. I would’ve mentioned it anyway. 

There is nothing to grow from, because I know in my heart that I would’ve mentioned it anyway, even if I didn’t realize the possibility of maybe getting sneezes from it. She has asked me for advice on growing her channel many times since we are such close friends. This is something I feel can grow her channel. I literally did tons of research about blooper videos growing engagement because I was gonna bring it up. This was before I even thought of this possibility of sneezes. And again, I do not care about the sneezes, I want her channel to grow. She’s been at the same thousand amount of followers for over a year. I thought this was something I could do to help since she’s done so much for me. I only thought that might be a possibility with it

Edit: How wouldn’t I have noticed? I’m a super observant person that even with people I don’t know well, I can tell if they’re possibly sick or having allergy issues just by looking at their face. Of course I’d notice if she looked like she was gonna sneeze in videos or sounded congested. But again, that is not what matters. I want to help her. It was only something I thought in the back of my mind MIGHT happen too. And it probably won’t even, and I don’t care whether it does or doesn’t. So stop accusing a 16 year old (who cares so much for her friend that literally if her friend is even feeling slightly unwell she thinks about her and prays for her all week hoping she feels better) of sharking her friend. 

Edited April 16, 2019 by I love Alan Rickman

[I love Alan Rickman]

Oh well I’m sorry I’m not the best at putting things in proper order. (Moved them around) And for the record, she actually is getting comfortable in front of the camera. She said it herself. And she’s becoming more of herself there. Which she’s also said herself. So don’t act like I’m lying. If I didn’t care for and respect her as much as I do, I wouldn’t have cared to keep her anonymous this whole time. If you want to discuss this more, I can talk to you via pm. This is getting very heated for the main forum outside of the snake pit

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[•.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.•]

you're really then only person getting heated here. anyway it doesn't matter that you're sixteen. you're getting upset bc you wanted people to say "yes by all means seek sneeze material from your friend, here's how to ask her to do it without making her uncomfortable" but the adults in your life who you came to for advice actually are trying to teach you that, no that's a bad idea and you shouldn't do it. like okay you're sixteen?? you also have as much of a sneezing fetish as anyone else on this board?? your age is irrelevant to your friend's rights as a person to not be unknowingly solicited for sneeze content.

the thing about rationalizing is that your reasons may very well be true!! but they aren't the actual reason you want to prompt her to make blooper content so badly, and we both know it. 

5 hours ago, I love Alan Rickman said:

Do you agree with me, or do you think differently? Please tell me your answers (and how you think I should bring up the topic if at all) in a response!

so to directly answer your questions here, i think differently! i think it would be a bad idea to ask your friend to make a blooper video. i think that as much as it would be for the friend & her channel, it would also be self-serving and sneaky of you to do so. and i do not think you should bring up the topic at all!

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[Anonymouse]

2 minutes ago, •.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.• said:

so to directly answer your questions here, i think differently! i think it would be a bad idea to ask your friend to make a blooper video. i think that as mucj as it would be for the friend & her channel, it would also be self-serving and sneaky of you to do so. and i do not think you should bring up the topic at all!

Seconded. I don't think there's an ethical way to go about doing it when you know and explicitly stated that there is a possibility the bloopers would contain some sneezing.

[I love Alan Rickman]

10 minutes ago, •.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.• said:

you're really then only person getting heated here. anyway it doesn't matter that you're sixteen. you're gettingupset bc you wanted people to say "yes by all means seek sneeze material from.your friend, here's how to ask her to do it without making her uncomfortable" but the adults in your life who you came to for advice actually are trying to teach you that, no that's a bad idea and you shouldn't do it. like okay you're sixteen?? you also have as much of a sneezing fetish as anyone else on this board?? your age is irrelevant to your friend's rights as a person to not be unknowingly solicited for sneeze content.

the thing about rationalizing is that your reasons may very well be true!! but they aren't the actual reason you want to prompt her to make blooper content so badly, and we both know it. 

so to directly answer your questions here, i think differently! i think it would be a bad idea to ask your friend to make a blooper video. i think that as mucj as it would be for the friend & her channel, it would also be self-serving and sneaky of you to do so. and i do not think you should bring up the topic at all!

I am not seeking sneezes from her, they do nothing for me! It was only a secondary thought. My Lord. How many times do I have to say it? I mentioned I’m sixteen because I’m an emotionally vulnerable teenager who already has crap going on and doesn’t even know if her parents are gonna stay together, and you guys have been a place I’ve come to for support when I’ve been struggling in the past. Seeing y’all get so mad at me for accusing me of doing something I’m not makes me feel so upset. 

No, I know it, and clearly you do NOT know it. Again, I thought of mentioning bloopers even before the thought came to mind of sneezes. I was gonna mention it before that thought. It was a secondary thought that has absolutely no relevance, and I came to y’all for help since again, I have a small amount of friends in person and they’re all very busy!

I am not doing it for the sneezes, how many times do I have to say????

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I’m typing too fast. Typos

[I love Alan Rickman]

3 minutes ago, Anonymouse said:

Seconded. I don't think there's an ethical way to go about doing it when you know and explicitly stated that there is a possibility the bloopers would contain some sneezing.

Oh my lord. It was a secondary, irrelevant thought when I was already thinking of mentioning the blooper idea. And the only reason I mentioned the sneezing possibility here is because this is a fetish forum. But I personally don’t care whether she sneezes or not. I’m not in it for that. I’m not in my friendship for that. I want to do it because I genuinely care about her and I did tons of research before the secondary thought crossed my mind. Can we please drop this and actually understand what is REALLY going on and stop assuming?

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Your defensiveness very handily reveals your true intentions. It's fine to have made a mistake, but digging your heels in and insisting it is okay because you are sixteen and your parents might break up is not remotely acceptable. You are old enough to know better, or you should be.

Anyway, apart from all of this being a terrible idea for fetish-driven reasons, there is also the issue of if your friend (presumably also underage) makes a sneezing blooper video, creepy old men on YouTube will descend on her videos like a pack of wild dogs and literally never stop hounding her for more sneeze material. Not great.

Edited April 16, 2019 by Jejune

[I love Alan Rickman]

6 minutes ago, Jejune said:

Your defensiveness very handily reveals your true intentions. It's fine to have made a mistake, but digging your heels in and insisting it is okay because you are sixteen and your parents might break up is not remotely acceptable. You are old enough to know better, or you should be.

Anyway, apart from all of this being a terrible idea for fetish-driven reasons, there is also the issue of if your friend (presumably also underage) makes a sneezing blooper video, creepy old men on YouTube will descend on her videos like a pack of wild dogs and literally never stop hounding her for more sneeze material. Not great.

I’m defensive because I’m stressed already and I’m tired of being treated like crap because people think they know more about me than I do. I’m tired of people being traitors to me because they assume.

She isn’t underage, she is 25, going on 26. I get along better with adults than I do with most kids my age since most kids my age just cause drama which drives me nuts. So please don’t assume that I’m gonna be causing some pedophile stuff either. There we go with more assuming that I am such a terrible person

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[Anonymouse]

4 minutes ago, I love Alan Rickman said:

She isn’t underage, she is 25. I get along better with adults than I do with most kids my age since most kids my age just cause drama. So please don’t assume that I’m gonna be causing some pedophile stuff either. There we go with more assuming that I am such a terrible person

Child or legal adult, doesn't matter. People don't generally like to be creeped on regardless of age. Jejune telling you that she may end up on a compilation somewhere that cannot be removed and you say it doesn't matter because she's 25? They weren't accusing you of anything. Just trying to warn you of the repurcussions.

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[I love Alan Rickman]

1 minute ago, Anonymouse said:

Child or legal adult, doesn't matter. People don't generally like to be creeped on regardless of age. Jejune telling you that she may end up on a compilation somewhere that cannot be removed and you say it doesn't matter because she's 25? 

I’m not saying it doesn’t matter, I’m saying it’s not gonna be pedophile stuff. Quit trying to put words in my mouth. 

[RiversD]

2 minutes ago, I love Alan Rickman said:

And the only reason I mentioned the sneezing possibility here is because this is a fetish forum.

See, that's what makes things a little weird for us.

If you'd gone into off topic or even posted a simple post here that's like "hey, I'm thinking of encouraging my friend to do a bloopers video because..." without dwelling on the possibilities of sneezing, no-one would have batted an eyelid.

But when you come on a sneeze fetish forum and make a post with references to your friend's allergies and go into some detail about how the absence of sneezes on days you knew there probably would be some was what makes you sure your friend edits her videos, you're tying this post into what we on this forum generally consider sexual content. So the post becomes either an invitation (which I recognise was not necessarily intentional) for us to engage with this content as sneeze discussion on a sneeze fetish forum, or a request for advice on a fetish-related question.

I'm with the others. If she makes one on her own, well and good, but I think it would be hard for you to bring up the subject without a conflict of interest. Given that you're already keeping track of when she records on "sneezy days" I think it would be the healthiest option for you and your relationship not to pursue this.

[Anonymouse]

Just now, I love Alan Rickman said:

I’m not saying it doesn’t matter, I’m saying it’s not gonna be pedophile stuff. Quit trying to put words in my mouth. 

You put words in Jejune's mouth. They never mentioned pedophilia. 

[I love Alan Rickman]

People have fetishes for HANDS for goodness sake. I want to defend my friend, and I’ve defended her from creepy weirdos in the past. I said she’s 25 because I’m now being blamed for causing pedophile stuff because AGAIN you guys are assuming without knowing me

[I love Alan Rickman]

1 minute ago, Anonymouse said:

You put words in Jejune's mouth. They never mentioned pedophilia. 

Ummm yes, they did?? Jejune assumes my friend was underage and said that if she put a sneeze blooper video out that men would come at her like packs of dogs and “literally never stop hounding her for more sneeze material”

[•.*°•☆. Q .☆•°*.•]

i'm rlly sorry your parents are having troubles. if you'd like to make a thread for that i would be happy to lend you support about it. i'm sure it's very hard for you.

that being said, this idea is still  a bad idea. even if sneeze is an afterthought for you, it's still a thought for you. and, as others have pointed out, it leaves your friend vulnerable to being objectified in ways that: she does not know about and has not agreed to; you DO know about and have the ability to prevent.

[I love Alan Rickman]

4 minutes ago, RiversD said:

See, that's what makes things a little weird for us.

If you'd gone into off topic or even posted a simple post here that's like "hey, I'm thinking of encouraging my friend to do a bloopers video because..." without dwelling on the possibilities of sneezing, no-one would have batted an eyelid.

But when you come on a sneeze fetish forum and make a post with references to your friend's allergies and go into some detail about how the absence of sneezes on days you knew there probably would be some was what makes you sure your friend edits her videos, you're tying this post into what we on this forum generally consider sexual content. So the post becomes either an invitation (which I recognise was not necessarily intentional) for us to engage with this content as sneeze discussion on a sneeze fetish forum, or a request for advice on a fetish-related question.

I'm with the others. If she makes one on her own, well and good, but I think it would be hard for you to bring up the subject without a conflict of interest. Given that you're already keeping track of when she records on "sneezy days" I think it would be the healthiest option for you and your relationship not to pursue this.

I said I don’t CARE about if she sneezes or not. I’m not keeping track of when she records on sneezy days, she POSTED them the day after she was sneezy and sounded the same had on the same outfit. I told you, I am observant and get very concerned when she is sick or having allergy issues

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Just now, I love Alan Rickman said:

Ummm yes, they did?? Jejune assumes my friend was underage and said that if she put a sneeze blooper video out that men would come at her like packs of dogs and “literally never stop hounding her for more sneeze material”

This will happen absolutely regardless of your friend's age.

Also it was very, very reasonable to assume your friend was on the younger side. 25 year olds are not typically "best friends" with 16 year olds (yikes!!!). 

[I love Alan Rickman]

Just now, Jejune said:

This will happen absolutely regardless of your friend's age.

Also it was very, very reasonable to assume your friend was on the younger side. 25 year olds are not typically "best friends" with 16 year olds (yikes!!!). 

But do you think I’m dumb that I’d recommend someone whose sneezes I wouldn’t even be able to mention on this forum outside of the youth board because of age for making a video with that possibility? And how is that a yikes? 🤨 We’re both girls. She is my role model, and we have developed a friendship. Is there really something wrong with that now? I’d see if it was a guy that age, but we’re both the same gender, and we met since she was (and still is) my role model, and we happened to develop a friendship.

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2 minutes ago, I love Alan Rickman said:

But do you think I’m dumb that I’d recommend someone whose sneezes I wouldn’t even be able to mention on this forum outside of the youth board because of age for making a video with that possibility?

Saying I think you're dumb is certainly putting words in my mouth - words I wouldn't use - but absolutely yes, I think your judgment is immature enough that you would do that, based on this thread alone. 100%. 

3 minutes ago, I love Alan Rickman said:

And how is that a yikes?

It doesn't really matter. There's just a massive power imbalance between a 25 year old and a child, that's all.