Creeps and idiots!!

[shishio]

Hey you stupid creeps. You’re creeping people out! People are becoming aware of this “so called” community and judging everyone as creeps when we all know creeps are individual and are not the majority. Stop being creeps!! Stop asking these poor women about sneezing! Go buy your porn from C4S or manyvvids or someone from here, who’s a woman and who’s with this community. 

 

 

[Chanel_no5]

Hard agree. 

I fucking hate the predatory behaviour that only too many individuals with this fetish seem to display, while the rest of us have to get dragged down with the same nasty reputation. And no, I don't condone the postings of compilation videos or twitch and the likes on the forum either. 

 

[SleepingPhlox]

Harsh, but fair.

Sadly, no matter how distasteful the majority of us find this behaviour, and how many times it's called out...it's going to keep happening because these people are too selfish and entitled to possibly care about such things as respecting other human beings and how it makes the community in general look.

Yeah, to anyone out there who is doing stuff like this: ya suck.

[Chiguy]

Any attention like this is bad.

Not just for you ... for everyone here.

[Melody]

Absolutely do not condone peoples creepy predatory behaviour but this energy of wishing hatred on people is also, absolutely unacceptable. 

people are gross and will continue to sexualize people against their will. But it’s the internet. You can’t stop the internet. Or people being creepers. You know? You just got to let it go. As long as you don’t contribute to these clips. 
 

 

[shishio]

Perhaps, I shouldn’t. And I respect your opinion on the situation. However, that’s how I feel about it! Predatory behavior is predatory behavior. Whether it’s sneezing or pedophilia(extreme example I know) a predator is a predator.

One last thing for you creepy fucks! Eventually these folks will get “hip” to the situation and eventually will start charging for their sneezes as well. Eventually, you won’t get any of them for free because these folks will edit them out or ask you to pay for them. Go broke you creepy fucks!

[NoV]

As I've said on similar threads before, I think its generally people outside of the forum who are straight up asking strangers for sneeze material. Sneeze fetishists in denial as it were. I believe (hope) the vast, vast majority of people on here understand the damage that such comments can make to our community and the public perception of the fetish.

But yeah, as a comedian once said 'never say anything to a lady you don't know that you wouldn't want whispered in your ear in prison'

[Fantasneezer]

I also feel pretty sure that the majority of people now doing this are not regular users of the forum. Regardless, the Internet will remain the Internet and there is not much that can be done to stop the behavior of these people. 

[Reader]

Gentle reminder: Staff feels this message is important and is in the right section for the intended audience so we are keeping it in here with a few edits rather than moving it to Snake Pit. 

[Guest]

Yeah, this is bad, and creeps should stop being creeps.

But. We do have multiple parts of this site specifically designed to host content like this. The majority of members are here for nothing other than to consume that content. And these kinds of behaviours have been happening for years and we just sort of ignore it because we all like free porn. Frankly it is naive to think forum users aren't doing this as well as externals.

Isn't it time we killed off video hosting on the forum?

Edited June 2, 2023 by Shining Light

[jano]

While it's true that creeps and sharks who host Youtube pages for this unsuspecting fetish content, usually will never respond to criticism, it's still an important message that needs to be said, with the rise of this type of clipping being hosted here. Thought police do not exist, so timestamping your favorite Youtuber's sneezing for yourself is not something I can pass judgement on, as long as this enjoyment cannot be seen by the Youtuber, who isn't intentionally providing you sneeze content. Forums are unfortunately, a variation of public even if not to the first degree. Even linking videos can still alert the person to the existence of the SFF, since analytics exist and some media sites can tell you where a user just clicked your link from. Youtube does this. I did not know this, admittedly barely 2 years ago.

[Sneeze-aholic]

10 hours ago, Shining Light said:

Isn't it time we killed off video hosting on the forum?

Edited 10 hours ago by Shining Light

I think there's a huge difference between people posting links to their own content that they've made with the full knowledge of this community and linking to others that they don't have the consent to post for this purpose in the video hosting areas. The former I'd like to see stay, but completely agree about the latter. 

 

 

 

[Chanel_no5]

11 hours ago, Shining Light said:

Isn't it time we killed off video hosting on the forum?

 

19 minutes ago, Sneeze-aholic said:

I think there's a huge difference between people posting links to their own content that they've made with the full knowledge of this community and linking to others that they don't have the consent to post for this purpose in the video hosting areas. The former I'd like to see stay, but completely agree about the latter. 

I'm 100% with you on this and have been for quite some time. The policy is outdated. This subforum was created with the intent to give heads up about sneezing in movies/TV shows and other official media (with so-called public figures), but that was before just anyone had the capacity to film and upload their entire life online. Youtube, Twitch, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all that has enabled an access that wasn't conceiveable when the forum was created. If we're not allowed to post our own or other people's contact/identifying information here, especially not without their consent, nor should we be allowed to post other people's (especially people outside of the fetish) videos - face and all - and in some cases identifying details such as names and stuff. I know there's a gray area about being a "public figure" today when you can literally be a Youtube or TikTok "star", but that being the case I think above poster is right, it's better to only allow people posting links to their own content. 

 

[Guest]

I could live with allowing content that people have created themselves. 

@Mr_G et al, how do we make that happen?

[Likesn]

18 hours ago, Melody said:

Absolutely do not condone peoples creepy predatory behaviour but this energy of wishing hatred on people is also, absolutely unacceptable. 

people are gross and will continue to sexualize people against their will. But it’s the internet. You can’t stop the internet. Or people being creepers. You know? You just got to let it go

I honestly think that is the right way to go about it.

Whenever a discussion such as this starts there are some people who suggests the "nuclear option" of disabling some sections and/or functions of the forum. I know there's little chance I'll get those people to agree with my moral point of view, so let's talk about effectiveness. Even if most creeps were part of this community and this forum (and I really don't think they are), shutting down parts of the forum will not get them to change their behavior. They will continue to be creeps pretty much no matter what we do. Radical actions will just hurt the overall forum community, even people who are not interacting with people who don't have the fetish in any way. I get the frustration from creepy behavior, I really do, but making such radical changes to this forum will not stop that sort of behavior.

[Melody]

16 hours ago, Shining Light said:

 

But. We do have multiple parts of this site specifically designed to host content like this. The majority of members are here for nothing other than to consume that content. And these kinds of behaviours have been happening for years and we just sort of ignore it because we all like free porn. Frankly it is naive to think forum users aren't doing this as well as externals.

Isn't it time we killed off video hosting on the forum?

Would just like to clarify that I completely agree with shutting down video hosting. I only listen to content created by creators in this community because I personally feel icked out getting off to unsuspecting peoples sneezes. 
 

I just don’t agree with the OP wishing death on sharks. We’re all human beings here, no need to bring such a malicious energy to behaviour and people you dislike. 

[Chiguy]

1 hour ago, Likesn said:

I honestly think that is the right way to go about it.

Whenever a discussion such as this starts there are some people who suggests the "nuclear option" of disabling some sections and/or functions of the forum. I know there's little chance I'll get those people to agree with my moral point of view, so let's talk about effectiveness. Even if most creeps were part of this community and this forum (and I really don't think they are), shutting down parts of the forum will not get them to change their behavior. They will continue to be creeps pretty much no matter what we do. Radical actions will just hurt the overall forum community, even people who are not interacting with people who don't have the fetish in any way. I get the frustration from creepy behavior, I really do, but making such radical changes to this forum will not stop that sort of behavior.

My unofficial view ... you're exactly right.

Wrong approach to the problem. Also nothing making anyone look at any content here. 

We also don't host videos. Members post links. 

Edited June 3, 2023 by Chiguy

[Mr_G]

17 hours ago, Shining Light said:

Isn't it time we killed off video hosting on the forum?

We've never hosted videos here, it's always just been links to videos elsewhere.

2 hours ago, Shining Light said:

I could live with allowing content that people have created themselves. 

@Mr_G et al, how do we make that happen?

People already do that - there's links to members own content in both Sneezing in the Media and Share and Share Alike forums.

We could just stop people posting any sort of media at all, but that's probably a bit overkill - I'd rather just stop people complaining about what Bob did on site xyz and expecting staff here to be able to fix it.

I agree that this sort of behaviour is annoying, and does give the community a negative reputation, but this is always going to be an issue - we can't control what people do outside this site unfortunately.

This is not the first time that this issue has been posted/complained about here, and that's fine, but don't expect us to be able to remove silly comments from YouTube videos, or hide videos complaining about the community posted externally etc, it can't be done.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Mr_G said:

We've never hosted videos here, it's always just been links to videos elsewhere.

People already do that - there's links to members own content in both Sneezing in the Media and Share and Share Alike forums.

We could just stop people posting any sort of media at all, but that's probably a bit overkill - I'd rather just stop people complaining about what Bob did on site xyz and expecting staff here to be able to fix it.

I agree that this sort of behaviour is annoying, and does give the community a negative reputation, but this is always going to be an issue - we can't control what people do outside this site unfortunately.

This is not the first time that this issue has been posted/complained about here, and that's fine, but don't expect us to be able to remove silly comments from YouTube videos, or hide videos complaining about the community posted externally etc, it can't be done.

Respectfully, we're putting our heads in the sand here.

It's 2023 and our community is absolutely full of links to recordings to which we don't have consent to use, mostly of women and a fair few of them on the way to being underage, to which we are jacking off. The distinction between hosting vs posting links isn't relevant,  nor is the fact that taking this action won't stop some people being creepy on those sites.

We should break the connection between those of us who do want to be in a supportive community of kinksters and those who don't.

[peach2218]

Agree 100%. 
 

And I do feel like a lot of these commenters are on the forum. If they search for sneezing content on YouTube, chances are they have stumbled across the forum from google searches as well. 
 

so yeah… knock it off, y’all. 

[solitaire-au]

To me it’s not so much the compilation videos that are unsavoury (because anything posted on the Internet can be clipped in that way for someone else’s sexual satisfaction,) it’s the comments and demands for more.

It’s disrespectful to non-fetishists especially the person whose video it is, and it makes people more likely to assume we’re all predators.

[Bless you, Hi]

Hi. 

I have thread called "Facebook + Sneezers" which posts links to sneezing on FB and twitch. The distinction is that I don't edit/replicate the media of what was originally posted then repost it publicly on the internet as a SF host. Imo if an adult posts a link about themselves on the web for anyone to see (not a private video), the link to their WILLFULLY MADE PUBLIC CONTENT can be reposted, NOT REPACKAGED for fetish reasons, which is the ONLY reason they find out about it. Think about it. If you've never heard of a sneezing fetish and the way you find out is a subscriber sending you a link to a YT complication of yourself sneezing from recently to several years ago AND every video on the channel is titled some version of "Cute Wet Sneezing" AND the comments are like "That third uncovered sneeze was so HOT!! she is perfect!!! 🤤🍆"... well it's kind of like telling a person who has never done drugs to start by trying crystal meth. AT LEAST make the link private! But no, the handful of YT channels who are using the links I post are giddy with all the subscribers and views they get... but they're not doing the forum any favors. Some are even asking for donations and/or have a patreon! wtf

You want to stop them? Try letting them know ON THEIR CHANNEL and/or clicking the "Report" button. I have and still actively encourage people to give them s**t for it. Worst case, the host will get really annoyed about having to deal with all the temporary bans from posting. Also can't show the sneezer a link to their fetish sneezing YT comps if the channel is suspended right?...

Have a great day everyone!

- BYH 🦎

Edited June 4, 2023 by Bless you, Hi

[Sneezefan456]

hi i’m rarely active in here but this is why when i find a streamer i like i tend to not share anyone and just take clips by using the downloader because i’m afraid some of you know might go in that chat and creep them out or clip their sneezes using the twitch clipper

[Sahrah]

Agreed. Stop asking random people for sneezing videos. Theres plenty of stuff within the community and the more attention thats put on everyone the more embarrassing it can be for a lot of us. 

[poiub]

Interesting thread.

There seem to be two camps here: one (including @shishio who started the thread) which is calling people out for commenting on non-fetish YouTube, tiktok, and twitch videos; and one which is calling for discussion/sharing of such content to be banned from the forum entirely.

@Mr_G, I don't think anyone is asking you to control the content of external sites, but rather the latter camp are suggesting we disallow the posting here of any content which was not made with the video subject's express consent to be shared for SF purposes (i.e. getting one's jollies).

I'm definitely a culprit of the sharing (thought not the external commenting) behaviour, usually on the proviso that the streamer's name or channel is not explicitly posted as to not draw their attention via Google alerts, etc. On reflection, perhaps this caveat makes the posting even worse; sure, the intention, at least partly, is to avoid making streamers uncomfortable in a  "what you don't know won't hurt you" sort of way; but if I'm honest, part if it was also to avoid negative attention and exposure of the behaviour itself, and if I'm going to lengths to hide what I'm doing, that's a pretty good indicator that it's Not A Good Thing.

I had made and shared clips of streamers in the past, but I did cease doing so a while back and made my old links private, as I decided that behaviour was a bridge too far for me.

I would also gently probe toward the idea that, if posting clips without consent is disallowed, should the observations forum not go explicit-consent-only too (i.e. self-obs)? I somehow doubt that that random stranger in the bank with a head cold, or your husband's hayfever-suffering friend, or your old boss with a perfume sensitivity would be too happy to find out that their sneezes have been meticulously transcribed and dissected online.

Edited June 6, 2023 by poiub