gender balance of this fetish

[iojo]

saw a thread on here talking about how we get the fetish but then i was wondering: do an equal proportion of men and women have the fetish equaly? or is it more dominant in one of them? my observations would show that men comprise more of the fetish havers than women, but not a huge majority. perhaps men are just way more vocal about their sexual preferences and love of sneezes than women? honestly i don't know but just wondering. perhaps theres data on the site of the proportion of men to women based on their profile. what do you guys think?

[iheartsneezn]

I'm not sure about gender imbalance as it relates to the fetishists themselves. However, based solely off posting trends here and on other sites, fetish preferences seem to be skewed towards female sneezing. In terms of media, there's a huge sense of group effort as it relates to discovering and indexing (f) based media content that just doesn't seem as present in the (m) preference community. Just look at the 49 page Twitch thread dedicated solely to (f) sneezing.

[drsn]

Good question! From what I've seen on here, it seems many women are into caretaking as well as sneezing, which is interesting (I'm sure many men have this too though!) There probably are more men than women, but it is definitely more balanced than other fetishes!

[Privatedancer]

Interesting question.  I do think it seems to attract all genders but I would agree that most of the care taking observation and stories are written by females but I remember reading an observation by a male whose girlfriend (whom did not know about his fetish) was coming down with a cold while they were on a road trip and he was just so attentive and concerned and it was very endearing.

[peach2218]

I remember feeling like a freak for years after discovering what a fetish was, because I’m a female and I came across lots of people who would discuss fetishes as if they were some dirty perverse thing that only men experienced. 
 

I have noticed that there seems to be a larger number of men with the fetish than women, but it’s hard to say for sure. 

[obsexion]

8 hours ago, iheartsneezn said:

I'm not sure about gender imbalance as it relates to the fetishists themselves. However, based solely off posting trends here and on other sites, fetish preferences seem to be skewed towards female sneezing. In terms of media, there's a huge sense of group effort as it relates to discovering and indexing (f) based media content that just doesn't seem as present in the (m) preference community. Just look at the 49 page Twitch thread dedicated solely to (f) sneezing.

But then again, isn't all sexual content male centered and male dominated? Even the non fetish-related content, it's like completely designed to please straight men and not women. So I think that's mainly why there are countless female sneezing compilations but I have to dig deeply to find satisfying male content. 

[pepperbreeze]

4 hours ago, peach2218 said:

... I came across lots of people who would discuss fetishes as if they were some dirty perverse thing that only men experienced.

I have seen this attitude. Sadly plenty of gross men out there to back it up, but it is also sad when that kind of generalization stops being comfortable with themselves

I definitely think there are cultural reasons for why it seems like there are more men, and why there is a lot of certain content for men. I think the gender split would mirror the overall population, although there may not be enough of us for that to be mathematically sound.

[normalgrl]

3 hours ago, obsexion said:

But then again, isn't all sexual content male centered and male dominated? Even the non fetish-related content, it's like completely designed to please straight men and not women. So I think that's mainly why there are countless female sneezing compilations but I have to dig deeply to find satisfying male content. 

Yep I think this is the case

[RosieB]

This is an interesting discussion. I think it is hard to judge by simply looking at internet communities. It's so hard to generalize because I think everyone's relationship to the fetish is a little bit different. It is interesting hearing from all discuss the lack of male content. Most sexual material is made to appeal to straight men first and foremost say that seems to be who is consuming it. However this is extremely one-sided. 

[Bless you, Hi]

HARD disagree.

There isn't more M media content posted because the ones interested in M, especially females, don't focus their fetish on that aspect as much the ones interested in F content... they prefer things like like stories/fanfiction/art thats why the uploads for that section are mostly M. It's not a super general fetish that is widely filmed and catered to... it's sneezing. Eg. there are more M twitch streamers than F streamers--it's a gaming site. So that means there is more M content right?!? If there was more interest it would be posted, there's not a lack of content. Men are more wired to want the simple visual/audio over stories, fiction, art, ect.

To drive my point home, even the members that by far post the most M media content are male!

[sneezeguy468]

On 8/15/2023 at 8:02 AM, obsexion said:

But then again, isn't all sexual content male centered and male dominated? Even the non fetish-related content, it's like completely designed to please straight men and not women. So I think that's mainly why there are countless female sneezing compilations but I have to dig deeply to find satisfying male content. 

I think it depends on what content you are talking about. I think the majority of story and written word content is female-centered and caters to women. But then videos and recordings tend to cater to men. 

[sneezeguy468]

But in terms of the original question, I think it's pretty close to even but I think slightly more women have it than men. Maybe men are just active? I dont know. 

[obsexion]

20 hours ago, sneezeguy468 said:

I think it depends on what content you are talking about. I think the majority of story and written word content is female-centered and caters to women. But then videos and recordings tend to cater to men. 

Yeah, I was mainly referring to the videos and recordings. I think there's more written content designed for straight women online because more women are writers in a sense? Like usually erotica is a genre that mainly appeals to women, just think about all the romance/smut books that are out there...I've never heard of a man reading them. Same as writing fanfictions etc. 

[nancy]

on the forum, i seem to come across more men into exclusively female sneezes. but then on places like tumblr and twitter, there seems to be almost no men in those communities

[klick22]

11 hours ago, gemma said:

on the forum, i seem to come across more men into exclusively female sneezes. but then on places like tumblr and twitter, there seems to be almost no men in those communities

Is there a significant snz fetish presence on Twitter??

[Heathcliff]

47 minutes ago, klick22 said:

Is there a significant snz fetish presence on Twitter??

Lol, I would not have thought so, but I don't know.

[sneezysunshine]

14 hours ago, gemma said:

on the forum, i seem to come across more men into exclusively female sneezes. but then on places like tumblr and twitter, there seems to be almost no men in those communities

My observation on Tumblr is that it is a lot more women and nonbinary people compared to for example here. Maybe it has something to do with that a lot of the content there is writing and art, not video? I think I've heard that men like visual stuff more, whilst women are more for the fantasies, but I don't have science backing that statement haha. So idk, my guess though is that it is about the same across genders, but that certain content typically appeals to the genders differently??? Would be so interesting to do actual research in this though, but it seems hard since people care for their anonymity a lot (which I can completely understand)

Edited December 12, 2023 by sneezysunshine

[iojo]

On 12/12/2023 at 3:38 PM, sneezysunshine said:

My observation on Tumblr is that it is a lot more women and nonbinary people compared to for example here. Maybe it has something to do with that a lot of the content there is writing and art, not video? I think I've heard that men like visual stuff more, whilst women are more for the fantasies, but I don't have science backing that statement haha. So idk, my guess though is that it is about the same across genders, but that certain content typically appeals to the genders differently??? Would be so interesting to do actual research in this though, but it seems hard since people care for their anonymity a lot (which I can completely understand)

I agree with this. I feel like the zeitgeist on tumblr and other stuff is different. Just the vibes are different yk

[Sitruuna]

I've been thinking about this thread a lot since I saw it a week or two ago, and about the things people here have said. I've been considering responding, considering not responding, then considering responding again... Some of the other threads I've been observing on this forum lately finally made me think maybe I should, indeed, write a response. I try to keep this OK for the general boards, I hope this won't be taken as venting outside of the snake pit... that's not my intention, I simply want to point out some of the... environmental factors that might affect how we perceive the gender balance.

I see no reason for why there would be more men than women who are into sneezing. I feel like the question itself reflects a very puritan Christian take on sexuality that's very prominent in certain countries especially. You know how, for a long time and not so very long ago, the men in many places (such as the US!) thought women simply do not experience sexual pleasure. At all. That's one of the myths of puritan bullshit and absolutely still shapes the thoughts and ideas of a lot of people.

I know it's common with many fetishes for people to believe there is a significant gender divide, but as some people in this thread have noted, a lot of "traditional" porn is catered to straight men, and that does shape our perception of things. I also think there is a difference between fetishes/kinks like sneezing and emeto and such (focused around something that's inherent to life, that has occured naturally since we came to be) and things like "school girl outfits" and what have you. If it's about something integral to our lives, stemming from biology and our bodies and how they function, rather than cultural creations (clothes, for example), why would one gender be more inclined to find it arousing/attractive than others? Maybe that is the case, but it makes no logical sense to me to assume there's an inherent divide. Who is vocal about it and how much space different demographics take, where people gather to discuss their interests... those are things that vary.

I personally feel like this site has meandered more towards being the sort of place that originally kept me away from here when I first discovered it. I won't be getting into the details of how I felt about this place back in ???, but I know that more recently a lot of women and queer people (regardless of gender) have felt like this forum isn't really for them anymore. There have been issues here for years that lead to plenty of us leaving for Tumblr back in... I think it was around 2015..? And even with some changes having been made since then (for the better), a lot of the people I know still feel like the way this site is moderated does not allow for creepy and unsafe behaviour to be dealt with as it should be dealth with. Feeling safe is a pretty major aspect of being present in a fetish focused space and when you have to wonder if being present somewhere might come with getting violated... you likely won't be sticking around. Now obviously this site doesn't allow direct violations (if a member starts harrassing another member, the rules allow doing something about that) but when the members directly express their lack of care for boundaries outside of this specific place, that's fine! When members discuss their lack of respect for privacy and how they do things that would make people around them feel violated and unsafe if they knew what was happening, that's fine! I don't think it's fine and I know plenty of other people who agree. It creates an unsafe, unwelcoming environment.

A bit of an aside, but I have to say the Tumblr community has plenty of audio and video content also, but if you only take a quick peak in there as an outsider, you likely won't see any of it. The big difference between this site and tumblr isn't how wavs&videos vs stories&art focused they are, it's more what sort of people have gathered here vs there in the first place. Tumblr lets you moderate your own circle better than a forum like this does and that's crucial to a lot of people there.

[Arvani]

Bear in mind I have only been recently active in the community for the past three years and was otherwise very peripherally engaging in the fetish overall. 
 

My observations in general … VERY GENERAL so yes I a thousand percent realize there are outliers … are as such: 

Women tend to be much more driven by their mind as far as sexuality goes. The seduction game, the mental aspect, stories, etc. I think this may then translate into how we approach the fetish. For me personally I absolutely love the fetish and the opportunity to engage it. Do I reach out a lot to others or comment a ton online? Not really. I might reach out on occasion but I’d say it’s a relative rarity. Someone suggested recently to me that it is because women are so used to being sexualized that we then are very careful not to behave that way towards others and I think there’s a grain of truth there although maybe not the whole picture. I for one am cautious to not focus on the fetish alone and rather get to know someone first because that part is what makes an interaction enjoyable for me - sharing a friendly vibe while also exploring the fetish. 

Again generalizing but men tend to be visual creatures. And my experience is that they are much more likely to be the initiators of chatting. I cannot speak to why that might be except to say perhaps societal norms of men being the “aggressor” (in terms of attraction pursuit, not actual aggressive behavior) play a role there. 

All this being said, I’ve grown a much thicker skin since my early days of online interaction and I now will not hesitate to reach out if I find something particularly compelling to me. It still is relatively rare but it’s far more likely than when I first re-entered the community. 

As far as Tumblr goes - for me, I find that to be a really safe place as far as interactions go. If you aren’t treating someone with respect there, the block feature is simple and people actually call out bad behavior quite often. You can tailor your feed to what you want to see. And an initial reach out that is rude or too forward is usually not tolerated. It’s a different place with a different vibe, and that’s all good. 

But OP to your point - make no mistake, women are absolutely as much of a presence here as men are. We just take a different approach many times. 

[ItchyNostrils]

27 minutes ago, Arvani said:

I for one am cautious to not focus on the fetish alone and rather get to know someone first because that part is what makes an interaction enjoyable for me - sharing a friendly vibe while also exploring the fetish.

Love and agree with this one million percent! 😊
 

While I still post the odd video publicly, my relationship with my fetish these days is done through private *respectful* interactions.  I find it much more enjoyable, human connection and fetish-wise. 

[Sitruuna]

1 hour ago, Arvani said:

Someone suggested recently to me that it is because women are so used to being sexualized that we then are very careful not to behave that way towards others and I think there’s a grain of truth there although maybe not the whole picture.

I'm not commenting on what affects how different individuals interact with others, but I think this (the sexualisation) together with being used to harassement and getting objectified are matters that affect a whole lot of things. I hate generalising BUT I can't claim there isn't a pattern to be noticed. For example there's a type of stories I've only seen straight men post, defined by a certain level of depersonalisation where it doesn't really matter who the character is/characters are, they (the characters) are very generic and the only aspects of them that ever really get drawn any attention to are ones that matter in terms of sexual appeal (to the writer and intended audience). The "Sally breasted boobily" of fetish fiction, I suppose. And it's fetish fiction so it's fine? But as I said I don't think I've ever seen anyone but (straight) men post stories like that. Feels significant...

[Honkytonklagoon]

On 1/14/2024 at 10:33 AM, Sitruuna said:

For example there's a type of stories I've only seen straight men post, defined by a certain level of depersonalisation where it doesn't really matter who the character is/characters are, they (the characters) are very generic and the only aspects of them that ever really get drawn any attention to are ones that matter in terms of sexual appeal (to the writer and intended audience). The "Sally breasted boobily" of fetish fiction, I suppose. And it's fetish fiction so it's fine? But as I said I don't think I've ever seen anyone but (straight) men post stories like that. Feels significant...

Maybe these people are just not good writers.

[Bless you, Hi]

On 1/14/2024 at 9:33 AM, Sitruuna said:

I'm not commenting on what affects how different individuals interact with others, but I think this (the sexualisation) together with being used to harassement and getting objectified are matters that affect a whole lot of things. I hate generalising BUT I can't claim there isn't a pattern to be noticed. For example there's a type of stories I've only seen straight men post, defined by a certain level of depersonalisation where it doesn't really matter who the character is/characters are, they (the characters) are very generic and the only aspects of them that ever really get drawn any attention to are ones that matter in terms of sexual appeal (to the writer and intended audience). The "Sally breasted boobily" of fetish fiction, I suppose. And it's fetish fiction so it's fine? But as I said I don't think I've ever seen anyone but (straight) men post stories like that. Feels significant...

I don't really read SF stories and fiction, but I am now VERY curious to see the "breasted boobily" stories.

[Guest]

On 1/14/2024 at 10:33 AM, Sitruuna said:

I'm not commenting on what affects how different individuals interact with others, but I think this (the sexualisation) together with being used to harassement and getting objectified are matters that affect a whole lot of things. I hate generalising BUT I can't claim there isn't a pattern to be noticed. For example there's a type of stories I've only seen straight men post, defined by a certain level of depersonalisation where it doesn't really matter who the character is/characters are, they (the characters) are very generic and the only aspects of them that ever really get drawn any attention to are ones that matter in terms of sexual appeal (to the writer and intended audience). The "Sally breasted boobily" of fetish fiction, I suppose. And it's fetish fiction so it's fine? But as I said I don't think I've ever seen anyone but (straight) men post stories like that. Feels significant...

Damn, I just read through all this stuff, and it sucks that even in a sneeze fetish forum we are safe from gender imbalance. Now from what I've seen, it seems pretty split. I can't give a very balanced argument since I'm more into female sneezing anyways. However, I will agree I've always found it odd how many times I see "breast" pop as part of a sneezefic. This is probably saved for a deeper conversation on how sexualization effects the sneeze community, but I think you have some very good points here.